Tips on doing submarine scene.

[Lita]

How can I give the look of a sub in the water and the submarine.

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[Thread Killa]

Stock footage.

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[Dirty Cricket]

inside or outside the sub?

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[Pryce]

Play with it in the bath - I do!

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Pryce
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[Curtin-Parloe]

Wolfgang Peterson used models for The Boat, but he wasn't 100% happy with the results.

cheers

Paul

PS he used a drill, underwater, in a plastic bag for the torpedoes.

PPS I won't even asl if you know that when I say The Boat I mean Das Boot

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BAD EYE - It's finally here! www.curtin-parloe.co.uk/badeye Curtin Parloe 2001

[Lita]

Inside but6 mostly outside.

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[sn-films]

Obviously there are two ways to approach this. One way is 3D software, where the sky (water) is the limit. The other is using a physical model. Personally, I prefer physical models. If you have access to a swimming pool, you could use an old trick that we've been using for years. To do this, you'll need 4 things:

1) a submarine model that looks realistic (good luck)
2) A friend's swimming pool
3) A 10 gallon fish tank
4) A camera operator you trust (again, good luck)

The trick is simple... put the camera inside the EMPTY fish tank. Set up your model. Now, this is where the trustworthy camera operator comes in... set the fish tank in the swimming pool. A typical tank is going to want to float, so the trick is to have the camera operator slide the lens flush against the glass to eliminate any glare/reflections, and use two hands to push the fish tank down far enough in the water so the water line outside the tank is just above the lens. Remember, if he pushes the tank down too far, water will pour in and you could lose both your camera and the footage. Play the final shot back at 50% normal speed to make the sub seem more titanic (pun intended).

For surface shots, have a fan off camera. You have to see it, but the fan will help you create more smaller waves which will help you get past the bathtub effect. Again, play back the final clip at 50% speed.

We've actually done entire underwater sequences this way. Its one of the most stressful things you can do on a location (My fault entirely... the fish tank floated toward the middle of the pool and started to tip over when I wasn't looking... d'oh!).


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[Chance1234]

Man, you just reminded me of a 5 minute, short ive got sitting on my top shelf to be shot which i have totally forgotten about, have all the props and all the stuff to shoot it sitting up there along with it.

Man, give us 3 weeks and ill show you how to submarine and underwater exteriors that will kick arse

Chance



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[Lita]

I got time Chance so please let me know .thanks everyone.

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Brenda Diane Smith Filmmaker 35mm 0r bust nothing will stop me!!!!!